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In this final episode of the podcast, Rajni Shah and Omikemi engage in a long, slow, wide conversation, in which they reflect on the entanglements between the felt world of lived experiences and the systems within which we live our lives. Infused by the sounds and shapes of the ocean, this episode feels intimate and visceral – and perhaps more than any of the others, like an invitation to eavesdrop on a conversation between friends. In the accompanying offering, Omikemi invites listeners to spend time with a question that was present for them at the time of recording. Full credits and transcript for this episode will be published when the episode is released on 27 April 2021.

In this short conversation Rajni Shah and Kharaini Barokka (Okka) discuss the complex relationships between listening, safety, harm, accountability, and trust. These topics are especially poignant because Okka and Rajni did not know each other before recording this podcast, and so we hear them navigating in their own conversation some of the questions they are reflecting on together. In the accompanying offering, Okka shares some of her daily wellbeing practices.

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