Episode Four: Khairani Barokka

Abstract

In this short conversation Rajni Shah and Kharaini Barokka (Okka) discuss the complex relationships between listening, safety, harm, accountability, and trust. These topics are especially poignant because Okka and Rajni did not know each other before recording this podcast, and so we hear them navigating in their own conversation some of the questions they are reflecting on together.
 In the accompanying offering, Okka shares some of her daily wellbeing practices.