You can find all the most pertinent facts concerning the founding of the Journal of Research in Music Education in Fred A. Warren's doctoral dissertation. Chapter 5, reprinted as part of this month's Forum, deals specifically with JRME and quotes extensively from the original proposals and MENC executive board actions. Warren presents the main story very fully, and I recommend it to you for the facts of the matter. What Warren couldn't do, or wouldn't try to do in a doctoral dissertation, was to describe my more personal experiences while trying to get the MENC to sponsor a new journal that might somehow get into conflict with the Music Educators Journal, then, as now, our financial bread and butter. It wasn't easy, but it wasn't too hard either, and I want to tell you just how we did it. In 1951, I was a fairly new assistant professor of music education at the University of Michigan. Since getting my job in 1949 I had been working in the development of the doctoral program. Frankly, I had the notion of developing a program in music education that would equal in quality the program in musicology, already well established. I realized very soon that the lack of a professional journal of national and international influence would probably preclude the publication of the research reports that would derive from our program at Michigan as well as from other developing programs at Columbia, Eastman, Illinois, Indiana, and elsewhere. Other scholarly journals at the time were little interested in music education. Journals of education were little interested in music, or in any specific subject matter. So, with this in mind I sought out my colleague, and the great star of our department, Marguerite Hood, then president of MENC, and we talked over the possibility of getting out something from right here in Ann Arbor-we at first envisioned a kind of mimeographed newsletter. Then, one day in the spring of 1951, Warren S. Freeman, then dean of the school of music at Boston University, came to town to consult with Marguerite regarding various MENC matters. I happened to be in Burton Tower at the time, where Marguerite had her office, and we all got into a general conversation. Warren startled us by declaring his opinion that MENC should begin publication of a research journal as soon as possible. It struck us all that the time was ripe, that positive action should now be taken. It was agreed that Warren and I would prepare a proposal in