We are pleased that Lopes et al. (2017), approached our article with high expectations and thank them for their fulsome endorsement of the importance of the topic. We are also grateful that their criticism of our use of CITES source code 'I' provides us with an opportunity to clarify how things have changed since we wrote our article (D'Cruze and Macdonald 2016). Indeed, insofar as a superficial reader might have construed Lopes et al.'s (2017) commentary as a criticism of our paper, our response might be unexpected in that we agree with much of what they write. However, we differ from them in the conclusion that subsequent developments have weakened the essence of our main conclusion; on the contrary, we think they strengthen it. Our main conclusion was, and remains, that CITES trade database records are inconsistent and incomplete, with data on the disposal of confiscated live animals lacking, and that these deficiencies impede the proper allocation of available resources and prevent the effective monitoring and evaluation of management outcomes. More generally, by drawing attention to uncertainties in the fate of large numbers of confiscated wild animals, threatened or otherwise, we believe our paper has fulfilled an important role. Lopes et al. (2017), correctly, and helpfully, draw attention to the fact that the CITES source code 'I' should represent legal (re)exports of seized wild animals and their derivatives using a CITES permit, rather than seizures relating to illegal trade activity,