Two in one or one in two? Pushing off from Jung with Wolfgang Giegerich

Saban, Mark

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“…My criticism of Giegerich's view of psychology proper finds resonance and belongs to the recent exchange of ideas in this journal between Mark Saban (Saban 2015) and John Hoedl (Hoedl 2015). Saban finds in Giegerich's work a binary scission in Jung and a 'tendency to exalt one Jung [the esoteric] while disparaging the other [the exoteric]' (2015, p. 679).…”

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“…Giegerich tente de rectifier ce problème en réincorporant ce qu'il avait rejeté, rendant sa théorie plus complexe qu'il y apparait si l'on s'en tient à ses oppositions binaires. En fin de compte, néanmoins, la question reste ouverte de savoir si Giegerich parvient ou non à éviter une division binaire (Saban 2015) ou une tendance à minimiser régulièrement l'aspect humain de l'âme (Hoedl 2015) de par son besoin de toujours s'éloigner héroïquement de l'égo en recherchant à se libérer totalement de la névrose et de ce qui fait notre humanité.…”

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“…Giegerich versucht, dieses Problem durch erneute Einbeziehung dessen, was er zuvor abgelehnt hatte, zu korrigieren, wodurch er seine Theorie komplexer gestaltet als diese in seinen binären Oppositionen erscheint. Am Ende jedoch bleibt die Frage, in welchem Umfang Giegerich erfolgreich ist bei der Vermeidung einer binären Spaltung (Saban 2015) oder einer Tendenz, regelmäßig den menschlichen Aspekt der Seele unterzubetonen (Hoedl 2015) in seinem Bestreben, sich weiterhin heldenhaft von der egosuchenden totalen Freiheit, von der Neurose und unserer Menschlichkeit abzustoßen.…”

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“…Giegerich tenta di rettificare questo problema reincorporando ciò che aveva rigettato in precedenza e rendendo la sua teoria più complessa rispetto al suo evidente carattere oppositivo binario. Alla fine, tuttavia, restano aperte le questioni su fino a che punto Giegerich -nel suo bisogno di allontanarsi eroicamente dall'Io alla ricerca di una libertà assoluta dalla nevrosi e dall'umanità -sia effettivamente in grado di evitare una scissione binaria (Saban 2015), o una tendenza a de-enfatizzare le caratteristiche dell'anima umana (Hoedl 2015).…”

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“…La intención de Giegerich de rectificar este problema, reincorporando lo que previamente él había rechazado, vuelve su teoría más compleja de lo que aparenta en sus oposiciones binarias. Sin embargo, la pregunta permanece respecto de hasta cuánto Giegerich ha tenido éxito en, evitar una escisión binaria (Saban 2015) o una tendencia hacia des-enfatizar regularmente el aspecto humano del alma (Hoedl 2015) en su necesidad de continuar desprendiéndose heroicamente del ego, buscando liberarse totalmente de la neurosis y de nuestra humanidad.…”

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The psychologist who is not a psychologist: a deconstructive reading of Wolfgang Giegerich's idea of psychology proper

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This paper represents an archetypal and deconstructive reading of the work of Wolfgang Giegerich. In an attempt to extend and philosophically develop Jung's late-life view of the objective psyche, Giegerich, via Hegel, defines psychology proper as fundamentally separate from the everyday person and the 'human, all-too-human' aspects of the soul. It is argued that, in so doing, Giegerich removes the human person from being the primary focus of his psychology and creates instead a hierarchy of ideas and values privileging syntax over semantics, the logical over the empirical, and thinking over imagination. This bypasses the emotionality of the everyday person/patient and also renders psychology proper unable to address the day-to-day practice of the analyst. Giegerich attempts to rectify this problem by re-incorporating what he had previously rejected, making his theory more complex than is apparent in his binary oppositions. In the end, however, it remains a question to what extent Giegerich is successful in avoiding a binary scission (Saban 2015) or a tendency to regularly de-emphasize the human aspect of the soul (Hoedl 2015) in his need to continue to heroically push off from the ego seeking total freedom from neurosis and from our humanity.

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The absolute that is not absolute: an alchemical reflection on the caput mortuum, the dark other of logical light

Marlan

2017

International Journal of Jungian Studies

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This paper challenges Wolfgang Giegerich’s sometimes sophisticated and at other times sophistic notion of absolute negative interiority. In contrast to his uroboric view of ‘psychology proper’, this author resists the successionist ideas of a post-Jungian, trans-human perspective and asserts the notion of an unassimilable and unsurmountable ‘not’. In this paper, the author revisions the traditional divide between Kant and Hegel, taking the ‘thing-in-itself’ as truly other than existing only for consciousness and arguing against privileging the unity of unity and difference. This paper entertains the alchemical ideas of a residue, a caput mortuum, and an archetypally cumbersome object, a real limit, which remains and unhinges the elevating process of spirit on its path to return to itself in absolute interiority. Rather, it acknowledges an abyss ‘behind the back of consciousness’, a non-reified living unconscious – a dark light, an absolute that is not absolute, but rather a gateway back to the beyond, at the root of imagination, wonder, and transformation.

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Bridging worlds: participatory thinking in Jungian context

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2017

J Analytical Psychology

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Introducing the 'participatory' paradigm associated with the work of transpersonalists Richard Tarnas and Jorge Ferrer, the author outlines an approach to Jung's archetypal thinking that might offer a more adequate basis in which to ground a non-reductive approach to practice. In order to demonstrate the relevance of this outlook at the present time, the author begins by examining recent debates concerning the nature of 'truth' in the clinical setting. Reflecting on the difficulties analysts face in attempting to maintain professional authority without falling into an implicit authoritarianism, it is argued that any approach to therapy seeking to orient itself towards 'the unconscious' must posit the challenges of pluralism as a central concern for practice. With reference to the relationship between analytical psychology and the psychoanalytic mainstream, attention is drawn to the theoretical problems raised by the relational commitment to constructivist epistemologies, and a consequent tendency towards biological reductionism. Turning to the Jungian literature, similar tensions are observed at play in the present state of analytical psychology. Drawing attention to the process-oriented qualities of Jung's work, it is suggested that the speculative nature of Jung's psychology offers a more adequate basis for contemporary practice than might be assumed.

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Two in one or one in two? Pushing off from Jung with Wolfgang Giegerich

Cited by 3 publications

References 6 publications

The psychologist who is not a psychologist: a deconstructive reading of Wolfgang Giegerich's idea of psychology proper

The psychologist who is not a psychologist: a deconstructive reading of Wolfgang Giegerich's idea of psychology proper

The absolute that is not absolute: an alchemical reflection on the caput mortuum, the dark other of logical light

Bridging worlds: participatory thinking in Jungian context

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