2006
DOI: 10.1516/df6m-pkn0-7abt-vlwd
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The Controversial Discussions and après-coup

Abstract: The author suggests a distinction between what is descriptively named après-coup, and what is dynamically identified as après-coup. This parallels Freud's distinction between the descriptive unconscious and the dynamic unconscious in the topographical model of the mind. The descriptive après-coup refers to the way in which the concept has found a use, especially but not only in the French literature, to refer to retrospective signification in the moment-to-moment progress of a session. The author outlines dyna… Show more

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“…According to Green, the Oedipus complex constitutes the first, basic symbolic structure, and includes a network of concepts such as the murder of the father, the setting up of the ego ideal, identification, superego, loss, castration, desexualization and sublimation (Green, 1992, 2004; see also Kohon, 2005b). The Oedipus complex retrospectively retranslates earlier experiences in terms of après‐coup (Perelberg, 2006). These ideas contrast with Klein’s formulation: it is the mother (or her loss) that is at the origins of symbolization; the father is an ‘appendage’ of the mother, and the penis becomes a substitute for the breast (Kohon, 1999; Kristeva, 2001).…”
Section: Introductionmentioning
confidence: 86%
“…According to Green, the Oedipus complex constitutes the first, basic symbolic structure, and includes a network of concepts such as the murder of the father, the setting up of the ego ideal, identification, superego, loss, castration, desexualization and sublimation (Green, 1992, 2004; see also Kohon, 2005b). The Oedipus complex retrospectively retranslates earlier experiences in terms of après‐coup (Perelberg, 2006). These ideas contrast with Klein’s formulation: it is the mother (or her loss) that is at the origins of symbolization; the father is an ‘appendage’ of the mother, and the penis becomes a substitute for the breast (Kohon, 1999; Kristeva, 2001).…”
Section: Introductionmentioning
confidence: 86%
“…These authors’ thesis leads us directly to a nodal point, which pertains to the evolution and diverse interpretations towards which the concept of Nachträglichkeit has headed, and, more generally, the matter of temporality, in the psychoanalytic families since Freud. Perelberg (2006) identifies, from the time of the Controversial Discussions, a question around temporality that flows through the debate surreptitiously and can be aptly summarized by Hoffer’s statement: “For Freud the neuroses are particular illnesses of the sexual function, and for Kleinian theory the neuroses are particular illnesses of the destructive/aggressive function” (King and Steiner, 1991, p. 723). We are dealing here with the comparative role assigned to early experiences versus subsequent events in the shaping of unconscious fantasy, of the notion of ‘genetic continuity’, and of the oedipal complex.…”
Section: After Freudmentioning
confidence: 99%
“…Perelberg (2006, 2009), distinguishing between the ‘descriptive’ formulation of the concept and the ‘dynamic’ one, tries to recover the unique meaning of Nachträglichkeit in its interweaving of trauma and sexuality. For this author, the ‘dynamic’ conception is included in Freudian metapsychology.…”
Section: Trauma and Sexualitymentioning
confidence: 99%
“…The difference is in the proportions . Freud has both archaeological and teleological aspects, as shown, for example, in his conception of Nachträglichkeit (in which he, however, puts greatest strength on the retrogressive après‐coup movement [Eickhoff, 2006; Faimberg, 2005;Perelberg, 2006;Sodré, 2005). Freud, however, is primarily an archaeologist while Winnicott is mainly a teleologist.…”
Section: Psychoanalysis: Archaeology or Teleology?mentioning
confidence: 99%