“…Many agree with this, e.g.,Skinner (1969);Mandelbaum (1976, 720);Ayers (1978);Rorty, Schneewind, Skinner (1984, 1 -14);Mash (1987, 291 -299);Frede (1987, x, xxiii -xxv;1988; 2022a, 6, 9 -11, 18 -19, 26, 45 -46; 2022b, 173 -174, 186 -188);Normore (1990, 204 -210, 220 -226;2016);Sorell (2005, 2 -4);Kenny (2005);Hatfield (2005);Vermeir (2013, 53 -57);Laerke (2013);Garber (2015). Also,Rorty (1984), although confusing the terminology, see note 2 Passmore (1965).…”