“…All this has led to the alienation of the population for public matters, what has been described elsewhere as the 'de-responsibilisation' of local populations, 47 or as the 'learned helplessness of developing societies'. 48 As we found in our study in Pakistan, if, at the local level, neither population growth nor environmental degradation are considered as issues, it is not because of a lack of education about national priorities, but because of a conflict between national and local goals. 49 This takes us back to the issue of collective decision making at the local level referred to in the preceding section: by intervening aggressively in local communities, the state (and the market) have undermined collective decision making.…”