“…This idea lies in overturning the oneiric into the 'reality' of the patient's internal world and, through transference work, reality into the virtual situation of the analytic relationship, and also in bringing reality to a psychic on which concreteness and effectiveness are conferred equally. This, in fact, becomes a true '"realization" of the psychic' (Le Guen, 1995), to which the state of experimental and controlled de-realization of 'evenly suspended attention' corresponds on the part of the analyst. Indeed, if there is a specifi c quality in analytic listening, it lies precisely in the radical epoché, in phenomenological terms, of reality outside the setting.…”