Two different computer program packages based on the self-consistent local-spin-density approximation- and -are employed in this study of substitutional copper Cu Si and monovacancies V Si in silicon, including the effects of their charge state. The programs differ in the types of basis sets and pseudopotentials they use, each with their own relative merits, while being similar in overall quality. This approach aims to reduce uncertainty in the results, particularly for small or subtle effects, where the risk is greatest that the conclusions are affected by artifacts specific to a particular implementation. The electronic structures of the two defects are closely related, hence they are expected to behave in a similar manner. For both defects structural distortions resulting in lower point group symmetries than T d (the highest possible) are found. This is in good agreement with the results of previous studies of V Si . Much less is known about symmetry-lowering effects for Cu Si ; however, the electronic levels of Cu Si have been measured accurately, while those for V Si are less accessible. Calculating them is a challenging task for theory. The strategy we adopt, based purely on comparing total energies of supercells in different charge states, with and without model defects, reproduces the three known levels for Cu Si reasonably well. Satisfactory results are also obtained for V Si , so far as can be judged for this more complex case.