“…Clarke 2000; Mele 1999a). Mele describes Wilma, a person who is attracted to such an account, as someone who leaves it open whether ''freedom and moral responsibility are compatible with determinism, but maintain that the falsity of determinism is required for more desirable brands of these things'' 13 One might try to do this by arguing that indeterminism occurs during preference formation and it is preference formation, rather than choosing and acting in accordance with our preference, that is the true loci of control (see Ekstrom 2000Ekstrom , 2003. Alternatively, one might argue, like the deliberative libertarian, that indeterminism occurs during the deliberative process, but, unlike the deliberative libertarian, that this process is the loci of agential-control.…”