“…12:8). Stevens and Collins (1993) and Pattison (1977) suggest that the management ideas around "systems theory" (see Churchman, 1968;Deming, 1986Deming, , 1994Senge, 1990;Seddon, 2003;Meadows, 2009) aligns with this notion of organic church organization. Pattison (1977) also asserts that interactions between a congregation and its minister can develop and mature over time through the stages of Forming, Storming, Norming and Performing as originally observed in generic teams by Tuckman (1965).…”