Thestabilityconstants of the macrocyclic 1 -thia-4,7-diazacyclononane-and 1 -thia-4,8-diazacyclodecane-NN-diacetic acid ( H,L1 and H2L2) and of the open-chain 2,5-diazahexane-N,N'-diacetic acid ( H2L3) with Mg", Call, Sr", Ball, Mn", Co", Ni", Cull, Zdl, Cd", Pb" and Lam1' have been determined in aqueous solution (25 "C, 0.1 mol dmP3 KNO,) by pH potentiometry, and in some cases in combination with visible absorption spectrophotometry. The complexation enthalpies with Cull have been determined by adiabatic calorimetry. The electronic absorption spectra of the complexes of Cull and Nil1 were also recorded. All metal-ion complexes with H2L1 are stronger than with H,L3, even for the harder metal ions. The presence of the thioether donor particularly enhances covalent bonding with Cull as indicated by a higher heat of complexation, a more favourable entropy change and a stronger ligand-field strength. The change in stability of the complexes upon replacing H2L1 with a five-membered chelate ring between the metal ion and the two tertiary nitrogens, by H2L2 having a six-membered one, is dependent on the metal-ion size. The larger metal ions are destabilised relative to the small metal ions: the metal ion size-based selectivity for this pair of ligands is controlled by the chelate-ring size. Binding of Cull by H2L2 is sterically much more efficient than by H2L1 and is evidenced by a higher heat of complexation and a stronger ligand field.There is an extensive amount of data concerning metal-ion complexation in solution by polyaminocarboxylate complexones, ' and the interest, particularly in macrocyclic N-acetatesubstituted macrocyclic polyamines, is still g r ~w i n g . ~-' ~