2004
DOI: 10.1111/j.0020-8833.2004.00296.x
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Thucydides on Ripeness and Conflict Resolution

Abstract: Ripeness is the moment when parties to a conflict become willing to accept a settlement. It necessarily has a large subjective or psychological component. Thucydides' History of the Peloponnesian War may be viewed as a case study in ripeness, or its lack. Thucydides claims the conflict was foreordained to be a “great” war, meaning it could not be resolved before its cataclysmic end. His account of its origins reveals why this was so, and his presentation of select moments during the war constitute explorations… Show more

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“…Indeed, long before the formal emergence of the discipline of psychology, observers identified psychologically laden constructs that they applied to political power, war, and other issues that continue to be of interest to scholars in IS. Recently, for example, Forde (2004) examined Thucydides' use, well over two millennia ago, of the psychological underpinnings of ''ripeness'' to account for the history of the Peloponnesian War, illustrating the longevity of psychological constructs in interpreting international relations.…”
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“…Indeed, long before the formal emergence of the discipline of psychology, observers identified psychologically laden constructs that they applied to political power, war, and other issues that continue to be of interest to scholars in IS. Recently, for example, Forde (2004) examined Thucydides' use, well over two millennia ago, of the psychological underpinnings of ''ripeness'' to account for the history of the Peloponnesian War, illustrating the longevity of psychological constructs in interpreting international relations.…”
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“…So could the war have been avoided, particularly if the dispute over Megara was more about conflicting religious rather than secular narratives? Perhaps, as Forde has said, 86 war was unavoidable because the causes were too deep, too intractable, to brook more than a momentary pause in the momentum towards open conflict. Indeed, no matter how we interpret the war from 431-04 BCE, whether as a single war or as two discrete events, the fact that it takes place in the shadow of the 'First' Peloponnesian War, from 461-45 BCE, means that from 461-04 the Athenians and Spartans were engaged in a 'hot' war for 36 of 58 years -a powerful testimonial to enduring hostility.…”
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“…Waltz, 1979). They refer to similar dynamics before the onset of Westphalia as evidence (Forde, 2004). A discerning mind would probe further.…”
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confidence: 94%