The structures of the title compounds 1. 11 and III have been determined by X-ray crystallography. All three compounds. including the RI3-t-butyl isomer lI(axial r-butyl), exist in double chair forms. Compound 11 is deformed by an outward tilt as well as a substantial twist (16.2°) of the r-butyl group away from the staggered conformation. A slightly lesser twist of 13.7°is found in the equatorial I-butyl isomer 1. Outward bending of the axial Nvmethyl group also occurs in compound III. d;; / CH 3 vm VD Fig. 2.pair is largely axial) does so to a much lesser extent. It was deduced that the lone pair in IV as in VI is predominantly axial. Hence the NH is equatorial.These studies followed earlier ones' involving Nmethyl homologs (VII), (IVm) and (VIII) in which 13C NMR spectroscopy was used as a tool and which demonstrated that the N-Me group in IVm is almost exclusively equatorial.An interesting difference between the N-Me and N-H compounds is that in the former, but not in the latter, an axial lone pair leads to a sizeable upfield NMR shift of the antiperiplanar proton on the adjacent carbon (C-2). The absence of such a shift invalidates earlier arguments" in support of predominantly axial NH in piperidine.Basic to our studies was the assumption that the 813 -isomer VI in fact exists in the double chair conformation which must then have an axial r-butyl. While preliminary evidence in this regard was obtained from 13C NMR spectroscopy: it seemed advisable to establish the point unequivocally by X-ray crystallography. Whereas the amine VI was a liquid at room temperature, the picrate II was crystalline and suitable for structure study. It proved to be in the double chair form with axial r-butyl, If the (more congested) salt II is in the double chair form, it may be argued that the less congested free amine VI should, a fortiori, have the double chair conformation also.That compound II does not escape into the twist form is really not so surprising, since for a trans-decalin system with a bulky axial substituent at Col, both the twist-chair and twist-twist conformations are relatively rigid and involve the axial l-substituent in severe steric interactions of their own.Compound I, with equatorial r-butyl, was investigated for comparison with II; it also exists in the double chair as expected. Finally, for the sake of completeness, we investigated the structure of the N-methylamine salt III in which the N-methyl group is necessarily axial. The free lV R =H IVm R:CH 3