2022
DOI: 10.1101/2022.05.05.490811
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Sinking a giant: quantitative macroevolutionary comparative methods debunk qualitative assumptions

Abstract: Myhrvold et al. suggest that our inference of subaqueous foraging among spinosaurids is undermined by selective bone sampling, inadequate statistical procedures, and use of inaccurate ecological categorizations. Myhrvold et al. ignore major details of our analyses and results, and instead choose to portray our inferences as if they were based on qualitative interpretations of our plots, without providing additional analyses to support their claims. In this manuscript, we thoroughly discuss all the concerns exp… Show more

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“…Color variations prevent proper evaluation of many thin sections, including those examined here, without stereoscopic or at least magnified examination. Our examination of the Suchomimus section in the original high-resolution images found clear evidence of differentially distributed cancellous bone invading the medullary cavity, especially in the lower two thinsection quadrants (Fig 11A and inset), contrary to Fabbri et al [16]. We differentiated cancellous bone from adjacent dark-stained mineral deposits under stereoscopic magnification of the thin section (Fig 11B).…”
Section: Plos Onementioning
confidence: 64%
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“…Color variations prevent proper evaluation of many thin sections, including those examined here, without stereoscopic or at least magnified examination. Our examination of the Suchomimus section in the original high-resolution images found clear evidence of differentially distributed cancellous bone invading the medullary cavity, especially in the lower two thinsection quadrants (Fig 11A and inset), contrary to Fabbri et al [16]. We differentiated cancellous bone from adjacent dark-stained mineral deposits under stereoscopic magnification of the thin section (Fig 11B).…”
Section: Plos Onementioning
confidence: 64%
“…Although this CT-based femoral section (Fig 7A ) was not available to Fabbri et al for their initial analysis [15], they later reported its Cg as 0.941 [16] but did not present the binarized image that was used for Cg measurement. We are unable to replicate that value, even…”
Section: Plos Onementioning
confidence: 99%
“…Fabbri et al . responded that the term “subaqueous foraging” meant habitual “subaqueous submersion” [ 16 ],…”
Section: Resultsmentioning
confidence: 99%
“…The materials and methods we used in our study are best understood in the context of those employed by Fabbri et al ., so we first summarize the relevant datasets and methods reported in their paper and a subsequent preprint [ 15 , 16 ].…”
Section: Methodsmentioning
confidence: 99%
“…Indeed, despite their apparent ties to water, spinosaurid specimens are known from several semi‐arid or arid palaeoenvironments (Amiot et al, 2010b ; Ruiz‐Omeñaca et al, 2005 ), and direct evidence indicates that small dinosaurs and pterosaurs, in addition to fish, were consumed (Buffetaut et al, 2004 ; Charig & Milner, 1997 ). Spinosaurines may well have exhibited increased aquatic specialisation (in some respects) relative to baryonychines, but the degree to which they were adapted to water, and how this adaptation was reflected in behaviour and ecology, remains the subject of ongoing research and controversy (Arden et al, 2019 ; Barker et al, 2017 ; Fabbri et al, 2022a , 2022b ; Henderson, 2018 ; Hone & Holtz Jr, 2019 , 2021 ; Ibrahim et al, 2014 , 2020 ; Myhrvold et al, 2022 ; Sereno et al, 2022 ).…”
Section: Introductionmentioning
confidence: 99%