“…When dealing with trees on ω, even if the most natural versions of amoeba usually do not have pure decision, some refinements can be defined in order to even get the Laver property. This is indeed possible for Sacks, Miller, Laver and Mathias forcing, whereas in [15] Spinas has shown this cannot be done for Silver forcing. Rather surprisingly, we show that the situation with trees on κ > ω is completely different, and we are going to show that pure decision gets very often lost.…”
Section: Introductionmentioning
confidence: 99%
“…The importance of such a topic is that it has crucial applications in questions concerning cardinal invariants associated with tree-ideals and regularity properties. In the standard case, such a topic has been extensively studied; see [12], [14], [1] and [8], [15] for important results in the context of 2 ω and ω ω . When dealing with trees on ω, even if the most natural versions of amoeba usually do not have pure decision, some refinements can be defined in order to even get the Laver property.…”
We investigate some versions of amoeba for tree-forcings in the generalized Cantor and Baire spaces. This answers [10, Question 3.20] and generalizes a line of research that in the standard case has been studied in [11], [13], and [7]. Moreover, we also answer questions posed in [3] by Friedman, Khomskii, and Kulikov, about the relationships between regularity properties at uncountable cardinals. We show ${\bf{\Sigma }}_1^1$-counterexamples to some regularity properties related to trees without club splitting. In particular we prove a strong relationship between the Ramsey and the Baire properties, in slight contrast with the standard case.
“…When dealing with trees on ω, even if the most natural versions of amoeba usually do not have pure decision, some refinements can be defined in order to even get the Laver property. This is indeed possible for Sacks, Miller, Laver and Mathias forcing, whereas in [15] Spinas has shown this cannot be done for Silver forcing. Rather surprisingly, we show that the situation with trees on κ > ω is completely different, and we are going to show that pure decision gets very often lost.…”
Section: Introductionmentioning
confidence: 99%
“…The importance of such a topic is that it has crucial applications in questions concerning cardinal invariants associated with tree-ideals and regularity properties. In the standard case, such a topic has been extensively studied; see [12], [14], [1] and [8], [15] for important results in the context of 2 ω and ω ω . When dealing with trees on ω, even if the most natural versions of amoeba usually do not have pure decision, some refinements can be defined in order to even get the Laver property.…”
We investigate some versions of amoeba for tree-forcings in the generalized Cantor and Baire spaces. This answers [10, Question 3.20] and generalizes a line of research that in the standard case has been studied in [11], [13], and [7]. Moreover, we also answer questions posed in [3] by Friedman, Khomskii, and Kulikov, about the relationships between regularity properties at uncountable cardinals. We show ${\bf{\Sigma }}_1^1$-counterexamples to some regularity properties related to trees without club splitting. In particular we prove a strong relationship between the Ramsey and the Baire properties, in slight contrast with the standard case.
“…However, in [17] I showed M ≤ T I(Si), hence add(I(Si)) ≤ add(M) holds in ZFC and therefore every Silver amoeba that is proper and can be iterated to produce a model for ℵ 1 < add(I(Si)) must add Cohen reals. Actually, the new element of [17] is the ZFC-inequality add(I(Si)) ≤ cov(M), as add(I(Si)) ≤ b had already been proved in [18]. Note that add(I(Sa)) ≤ b is also true by a result of Simon [15].…”
We prove that consistently the Lebesgue null ideal is not Tukey reducible to the Silver null ideal. This contrasts with the situation for the meager ideal which, by a recent result of the author, Spinas [Silver trees and Cohen reals, Israel J. Math. 211 (2016) 473–480] is Tukey reducible to the Silver ideal.
“…Let v 0 denote J(Si ), the ideal associated to Silver forcing Si (see Section 2.2). In [Spi16] the first author proved that the meager ideal M is Tukey reducible to v 0 , and hence add(v 0 ) ≤ add(M). When this paper was written in 2018 we conjectured that h < add(v 0 ) holds in the first author's model for cov(N ) < add(v 0 ) (see [Spi18]).…”
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confidence: 99%
“…In [Spi16] the first author has shown that the meager ideal M is Tukey reducible to v 0 and hence add(v 0 ) ≤ add(M) holds in ZFC. Note that, as a consequence, the model for our Main Theorem 1.1 shows the consistency of add(v 0 ) < add(s 0 ).…”
By iterating an increasing amoeba for Sacks forcing (implicitly introduced by Louveau, Shelah, and Veličković), we obtain a model in which h (i.e., the distributivity of P(ω)/fin) is smaller than the additivity of the Marczewski ideal (the ideal associated with Sacks forcing). The forcing is different from the usual amoeba for Sacks forcing: Unlike the latter, it has the pure decision and the Laver property, and therefore does not add Cohen reals. In our model, h < hω holds true, which answers a question by Repický who asked whether hω equals h in ZFC.
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