2014
DOI: 10.1126/science.1253146
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Response to Comments on “Local impermeant anions establish the neuronal chloride concentration”

Abstract: We appreciate the interest in our paper and the opportunity to clarify theoretical and technical aspects describing the influence of Donnan equilibria on neuronal chloride ion (Cl – ) distributions.

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“…No energy is required to maintain local differences in [Cl − ] i that arise due to local differences in immobile anions concentrations. The intra- and extracellular Cl − microdomains along a dendrite are not evidence of “an eternal motion machine” [63,64]. For example in Figure 2, diffusion of cytoplasmic Cl − from the area of high concentration to the area of low concentration is held in check by the charge separation that would be induced by Cl − diffusion, rather than the activity of the local CCCs [48].…”
Section: Cl−: the Neuronal “Packing Peanut”mentioning
confidence: 99%
“…No energy is required to maintain local differences in [Cl − ] i that arise due to local differences in immobile anions concentrations. The intra- and extracellular Cl − microdomains along a dendrite are not evidence of “an eternal motion machine” [63,64]. For example in Figure 2, diffusion of cytoplasmic Cl − from the area of high concentration to the area of low concentration is held in check by the charge separation that would be induced by Cl − diffusion, rather than the activity of the local CCCs [48].…”
Section: Cl−: the Neuronal “Packing Peanut”mentioning
confidence: 99%
“…The authors argue that the CSPG ECM surrounding neurons is rich in impermeable, stationary sulfate anions that reduce the concentration of free, membrane permeant Cl − (refs. 56,57). Following digestion, the impermeant anions are replaced by permeant Cl − , shifting the equilibrium conditions for the cation chloride transport toward higher intracellular Cl − , which results in increased excitability.…”
Section: Gliosis Gliotransmission and The Composition Of The Ecmmentioning
confidence: 99%
“…Following digestion, the impermeant anions are replaced by permeant Cl − , shifting the equilibrium conditions for the cation chloride transport toward higher intracellular Cl − , which results in increased excitability. This study elicited a heated debate 5759 , as it questions the relevance of the chloride transporters NKCC1 and KCC2 for maintenance of intracellular chloride concentrations.…”
Section: Gliosis Gliotransmission and The Composition Of The Ecmmentioning
confidence: 99%
“…In their response 297 they now suggest that DF GABA is due to Donnan-equilibration of Cl − plus an energy-requiring V m shift. If so, Cl − leaks would dissipate DF GABA , thereby necessitating never-ending V m shifts.…”
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confidence: 99%