Let J denote a simple closed curve in the plane. Let points a, b, c, d ∈ J occur in this order when traversing J in a counterclockwise direction. Define p(a, b, c, d) to be the ratio of ab • cd + ad • bc to ac • bd, where zw denotes distance between z and w. Define P (J) to be the supremum of p over all such points. Harmaala & Klén [1] provided bounds on P (J) when J is an ellipse or rectangle of eccentricity ε. We nonrigorously give formulas for P (J) here, in the hope that someone else can fill gaps in our reasoning.