Whereas in the UK, group analysis is recognized as an approach in its own right, in France it has remained much closer to psychoanalysis. This is well illustrated in the article by Gaillard et al. on Professional Practice And Kulturarbeit. Making use of the Freudian term of Kulturarbeit (cultural work) coined in 1932 by which Freud had compared the goal of psychoanalytic work Wo Es war, soll Ich werden (Where it was, the ego shall be) to the work of culture: 'It is cultural work, like the draining of the Zuyderzee', Freud (1933a: 80), the authors demonstrate the importance of the concept of Kulturarbeit in supervision, namely of and in staff groups.They make a plea for the creation of a 'self reflective space' in such groups, which they claim is facilitated by a Professional Practice Analysis (PPA). This might be a rather unfamiliar term for English speaking readers. Those who are may be referred to Darnley et al. (2010) who refer to this type of group as a 'reflective practice group'.In their particular approach to reflective practice, Gaillard et al. build on the work of Nathalie Zaltzman, a psychoanalyst and a founder member of the so called Quatrième Groupe. Founded in 1969 by Castoriadis-Aulagnier, P., Moreigne, J.P., Perrier, F. and Valabrega, J.P. to name but a few, this group mainly consisted of psychoanalysts influenced by Lacan's teaching, but were opposed to his institutional practice. Operating thus between the IPA affiliated