“…Nonetheless, there are still many further conversations about or the term faithful itself (Pattiasina, Susanto, & Pradita, 2022;Pradita, 2021;Pradita & Veronica, 2023;Susila, 2022cSusila, , 2022aSusila, , 2022bSusila & Pradita, 2022;Susila & Risvan, 2022;Teriasi et al, 2022). For example, if examined further from the experience of marriages of believers and nonbelievers, the extent to which the level of violence occurs for couples who are of the same faith, the extent of violence and the level of gender equality for couples who are not of the same faith and vice versa (Erika, Lukas, Debi, Kosdamika, & Rijaya, 2023;Ligan, 2022;Loheni et al, 2023;Lumbanraja, 2021;Triadi et al, 2022). The phenomenon of believing and non-believing conversations is a never-ending conversation to the extent that the laws and regulations of nonbelieving couples are still in the gray space or in vague webs.…”