“…Opening what exists in our university, beyond just having students present, and moving into a new space where representative structures work, cycle through, expose multiple perspectives, go along with training and payment for work done, draws a hopeful future for the plurality of voices desperately needed in our university systems. Drawing into a conversation about the avenues ahead of students, Dyane raised that student partnership, recent 'students as partners' movements in governance abound our institution (Cornelius-Bell & Bell, 2020), could actually be, a weak avenue forward and that conversations with students about involvement in strategic and organisational governance could pose as a real future for higher education participation at Flinders: Posing university governance, legislature, and policy as the nexus of radical change in the university sector almost seems silly, particularly as these spaces are seen as completely hegemonically controlled by corporate managers. Even amongst academic staff I interviewed, conversations about where the power lies in the institution became questions of governanceand my interviews included no explicit questions on governance.…”