Pareto, Parsons, and the Boundary Between Economics and Sociology

Dalziel, Paul C.; Higgins, Jane

doi:10.1111/j.1536-7150.2006.00444.x

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“…Pareto menjelaskan dalil tindakan rasional untuk analisis ekonomi tetapi berpendapat bahwa sosiologi membahas sejumlah masalah yang belum terselesaikan oleh ekonomi yang memerlukan pertimbangan faktor tidak rasional (Dalziel dan Higgins, 2006). Pemilik mesin pertanian memiliki rasionalitas ekonomi baik secara obyektif dan subyektif, namun hanya dalam rangka mengejar utilitas maksimum untuk masyarakat, tetapi ia juga melakukan tindakan yang tidak rasional saat hubungan sewa menyewa mesin juga didasari oleh rasionalisasi yang lebih memperlihatkan kepentingan individunya seperti agar hubungan sosialnya tetap baik.…”

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Aksi Irasional dan Keseimbangan Sosial dalam Perubahan Sosial akibat Penggunaan Mesin Pertanian Modern pada Pengelolaan Sawah

Wiroto,

Duengo,

Ibrahim

et al. 2023

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The inclusion of modern agricultural machinery, combine harvesters, in a village can have two social impacts: (1) the loss of a culture of mutual cooperation with a system of reciprocity between landowners and farm workers, and (2) a large loss of employment opportunities for farm workers in managing agricultural land in their villages. This can certainly make the social balance in the village disturbed, even so in Permata Village this balance is maintained. This social balance was researched using Vilfredo Pareto's individual action analysis framework and using qualitative approaches and case study methods. Social facts are moulders of individual actions, and rational actions exist only within economic facts, so a number of problems that are not resolved by economic means require consideration of irrational factors. The informant's statements regarding the actions they performed were analyzed to be categorized as irrational, which was then discussed with the concept of residue and derivation from Pareto. This study succeeded in explaining that there are four main factors of irrational actions that maintain social balance in the village, these four factors are reduced to coincidence factors and factors of systematic and appropriate interpretation and way of responding by the village government elite.

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Aksi Irasional dan Keseimbangan Sosial dalam Perubahan Sosial akibat Penggunaan Mesin Pertanian Modern pada Pengelolaan Sawah

Wiroto,

Duengo,

Ibrahim

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“…3 Pareto's obsessive attention to individuals' motives and emotional drivers had great success in the USA, where psychological studies anticipated and, to some extent, conditioned the development of sociology and political science. Thanks to the enthusiastic reception by Talcott Parsons (Dalziel andHiggins 2006), who, in 1935, edited the American version of the Treatise, Pareto became a source of inspiration for scholars of different disciplines. Conversely, it was not unanimously welcomed in Europe.…”

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Did Elitists Really Believe in Social Laws? Some Epistemological Challenges in the Work of Gaetano Mosca and Vilfredo Pareto

Giulio

2021

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The epistemological standards of contemporary social sciences refute ‘functional’ and ‘law-like’ explanations, whereas mechanism-based causal explanations have become widely accepted in various fields of inquiry. The paper supports the hypothesis that authors Vilfredo Pareto and Gaetano Mosca, despite their deference to positivist epistemology, significantly anticipated these developments. Indeed, with their emphasis on history, contexts and agents, elitists ushered into the debate of their time some arguments that realist epistemology fully developed, emphasising the role of context-specific and, often, not directly observable explanatory features. To illustrate the ante litteram epistemological realism of elitist thinkers, the paper reconstructs the positions of Mosca and Pareto concerning two major themes of that time, in which elitists challenged the mainstream ideas and values of most of their peers with epistemological arguments that refuse a linear notion of causality.

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“…Henceforth, the reasons presented by Parsons for the integration of Pareto into his sociological pantheon seem to be devoid of all pertinence. Concerning the subject of disciplinary divisions, Pareto wavered between the conception of economics and sociology as shared sciences handling diverse facts and the idea, in contradiction to the former, of an all-encompassing 'encyclopaedic' sociology (compare Dalziel and Higgins, 2006), in whichever case without any separation of analytical perspectives (study of means versus study of 'ultimate ends'), and not types of facts, which Parsons officially sought to consecrate. Let us remember that throughout these years, the American sociologist stressed again and again that one should not think in terms of different 'sectors' or 'departments' of social life, economics taking care of the department of business, sociology of others, but rather consider the existence of several analytically different aspects abstracted from the same one concrete reality (compare Parsons, 1934: 530).…”

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“…According to this new understanding, Parsons enlightened us on his writings of the 1950s, one should not think in terms of different groups of variables attached to economics and to sociology, but only of specific aspects of reality that economics is supposed to treat as parameters, the basic variables being the same no matter what the particular social aspect or perspective we are dealing with. And they all are, so says the new wisdom, a full sociological subject (Parsons and Smelser, 1956: 5-6; see also Dalziel and Higgins, 2006). 7 In brief, this latter change of position openly assumes that, as regards society, some more general vision would have to be sought, and that such a vision was exactly the mission for sociology.…”

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“…Parsons allegedly adopted this 'encompassing' attitude after his own new encounter with Marshall's work, since he expresses it for the first time in the Marshallian Lectures proffered in Cambridge in November 1953, but only rediscovered by Richard Swedberg in 1991 (compare Dalziel and Higgins, 2006; see also Graça, 2005). As a matter of fact, and considering what we have been seeing, it seems perfectly arguable that Marshall's shadow never completely ceased to haunt Parsons' speculations on the issue of the economics-sociology divide.…”

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The Economics—Sociology Divide

Graça

2008

Journal of Classical Sociology

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The academic divide between economics and sociology suggested by Talcott Parsons in the 1930s is based on a fundamentally mischievous and incoherent reading of various authors from the tradition of political economy. The interpretations proposed by Parsons are criticized, and it is thereby concluded that this divide has inhibited more than propitiated the intellectual commerce within social sciences, although no doubt enhancing Parsons' academic position. At any rate, it has also assured an academic recognition for sociology, if in a subalternsituation vis-à-vis economics. Further theoretical reformulations by Parsons are confirmation of previously mentioned incoherence and misunderstandings, without resolving them.

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Pareto, Parsons, and the Boundary Between Economics and Sociology

Cited by 13 publications

References 32 publications

Aksi Irasional dan Keseimbangan Sosial dalam Perubahan Sosial akibat Penggunaan Mesin Pertanian Modern pada Pengelolaan Sawah

Aksi Irasional dan Keseimbangan Sosial dalam Perubahan Sosial akibat Penggunaan Mesin Pertanian Modern pada Pengelolaan Sawah

Did Elitists Really Believe in Social Laws? Some Epistemological Challenges in the Work of Gaetano Mosca and Vilfredo Pareto

The Economics—Sociology Divide

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