We present two lines of reasoning, leading to elementary constituents more fundamental than the ones we know. One such arguments is new, and based on the holographic maximal bound for the number of degrees of freedom of any system. In this case, both matter and space are emergent. The other argument is old, and was given by Richard Feynman as a possible explanation of why analog systems do describe the same physics. The former argument naturally points to a solution of the information paradox. The latter argument elevates analogs from mere curiosities, to reliable tests of fundamental theories. Amusingly, the names given to this fundamental level, both by Feynman and by some of the modern quantum gravity researchers, e.g., Jacob Bekenstein, resemble each others: "Xons" (Feynman) vs "level X" (Bekenstein).1 As we shall show later, Feynman went very close to postulate Xons as elementary constituents of space, as well as matter. Indeed, it was the analysis of intimate properties of space itself, that lead him to conjecture the existence of these objects. Nonetheless, there is no clear statement he makes in this respect. arXiv:1902.07096v1 [physics.gen-ph] 18 Feb 2019 takes place during BH evaporation. As he wanted Stephen Hawking on his side he said "I agree with the old Hawking, and by old I mean the young one".