A rapidly growing body of the literature reveals the important roles apex predators play in shaping the composition and functioning of ecological communities worldwide [1,2]. The principal effects of apex predators-namely herbivore and mesopredator population suppression-are often evident following their removal from environments, or their reintroduction, including rewilding initiatives [3,4]. What remains less clear, however, is to what extent humans versus other apex predators affect ecosystems, how both interact across gradients of anthropogenic pressure and how such interactions can be affected by underlying bottom-up processes. Such questions are critical to answer in the Anthropocene [5], where effective management of ecosystems and conservation of biodiversity requires a better understanding of how top-down and bottom-up processes vary according to anthropogenic influences.Our work in Romania, which spanned natural to modified agricultural landscapes, and where humans and a diverse predator community coexist, suggests that apex predators are particularly important in suppressing herbivores, but that human influence is more prominent across the ecosystem, affecting species at multiple trophic levels [6]. Kuijper et al. [7] provide a critical response to some of the limitations and interpretations of our study. We thank Kuijper et al. [7] for responding to our work, and also for reaffirming the need for increased recognition of the importance of studying predator -prey interactions within human-dominated landscapes. Kuijper et al. 's [7] primary concerns with our study are: (i) inappropriate bottom-up data; (ii) unsuitable camera trap design to answer our study's aims; (iii) that top-down and bottom-up processes are not examined at appropriate spatial scales; (iv) the high wolf densities we reported and our inability to examine human impacts on wolves; and (v) that human drivers on wolf densities were not included in our models.The predator -prey literature is replete with active debate about how and what we can and cannot discern regarding predators' effects on ecosystems [8][9][10], and hence how this might affect applications, including managing overabundant populations and invasive species, and undertaking species reintroductions and rewilding [11]. Not sufficiently acknowledged by Kuijper et al. [7] and other similarly critical responses to field-based predator -prey studies (e.g. [12]), however, is that virtually all these studies have limitations resulting from the necessity to work at large geographical extents and in complex human -natural systems with often rare and cryptic fauna. Therefore, we certainly need to be careful not only when assessing the importance of these limitations, but also not be hasty in dismissing studies and hence potentially overlooking important messages they might still provide. We address Kuijper et al. 's [7] concerns below, and as part of this aim to promote more considered discussion regarding the challenges of undertaking predator -prey studies and interpreting t...