“…This entails understanding all views in the community(Ellwanger et al, 2015;Reibelt et al, 2017;Remis & Hardin, 2009;Riley, 2013;Setchell et al, 2017), understanding history with government policy(Brosius, 2006;Dowie, 2011;Riley, 2020), understanding the history of land use in the area, understanding the value and role that primate species play in human cultures(Pinto-Marroquin et al, 2021) and perhaps most importantly, learning about/recognizing local ecological knowledge(Leblan, 2016;Mishra et al, 2017) before beginning any PCEP.Codesigning and socially constructing knowledge involves dialog, sharing of ideas, learning from one another, and collaborative activities well before implementation of PCEPs. These shared activities also allow for the identification of varied learning signals that may be able to be assessed via nontraditional metrics.It may also be helpful to recognize and share that a global history of consumerism, land use, and poor conservation efforts have been the result of global consumers rather than the citizens in the area(Franquesa-Soler & Sandoval-Rivera, 2019;Lanjouw, 2021;Mabele et al, 2021). It is disingenuous to try to change behavior towards reduced consumption or use of forest resources when we are not investing efforts to change the behavior of the citizens in our cities, towns, and universities.…”