“…25–30 This comparison suggests that the frictional nature of particles in our system must be the key for the irreversibility, which is also consistent with the observation in the three-dimensional experiments. 31,32 However, the absence of reversibility here does not preclude the elusive yielding transition. 24,28,30,33–37 Different protocols other than oscillatory shear may be used: for example, using rheological protocol Otsuki et al observed the yielding transition in the frictional granular packings 38 whereas using oscillatory shear, they did not observe a clear distinction in the store and loss moduli.…”