2014
DOI: 10.1037/a0037048
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Mathematical modeling is more than fitting equations.

Abstract: Comments on the comments made by Brown et al. (see record 2013-24609-001). The article by Brown et al. regarding the Fredrickson and Losada (see record 2005-11834-001) article discussed the use of differential equations in science and repeated our earlier observation (Luoma, Hämäläinen, & Saarinen, 2008) that there is lack of justification for the use of the Lorenz equations in the latter article. In this comment we want to point out that Brown et al. presented a very narrow view on mathematical modeling in be… Show more

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“…In future work, due to our initial results on the communication quality that call for more sensitivity of the parameters used, together with the recent criticisms of the mathematical basis of the patterns of team dynamics based on Losada's parameters (Brown, Sokal, & Friedman, 2013; see also Hämäläinen, Luoma, & Saarinen, 2014), we will reexamine the results utilizing Monte Carlo sensitivity analysis (e.g., Lorén, Johannesson, & de Maré, 2009). The analysis will estimate, for example, the most sensitive Losada's initial parameters, which make the normalized communication values too uniform or saturated in the context of new learning teams.…”
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“…In future work, due to our initial results on the communication quality that call for more sensitivity of the parameters used, together with the recent criticisms of the mathematical basis of the patterns of team dynamics based on Losada's parameters (Brown, Sokal, & Friedman, 2013; see also Hämäläinen, Luoma, & Saarinen, 2014), we will reexamine the results utilizing Monte Carlo sensitivity analysis (e.g., Lorén, Johannesson, & de Maré, 2009). The analysis will estimate, for example, the most sensitive Losada's initial parameters, which make the normalized communication values too uniform or saturated in the context of new learning teams.…”
Section: Discussionmentioning
confidence: 99%
“…Along similar lines, Hämäläinen, Luoma, and Saarinen (2014, this issue) chided us for saying that Fredrickson and Losada’s (2005) article “contains numerous fundamental conceptual and mathematical errors” (Brown et al, 2013, p. 801). Hämäläinen et al conceded our main point, namely, the complete lack of justification for the use of the Lorenz equations in modeling the time evolution of human emotions; but they also asserted, incorrectly, that Fredrickson and Losada’s article contains “no clear mathematical errors” (Hämäläinen et al, 2014, p. 633).…”
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“…Along similar lines, Hämäläinen, Luoma, and Saarinen (2014, this issue) chided us for saying that Fredrickson and Losada’s (2005) article “contains numerous fundamental conceptual and mathematical errors” (Brown et al, 2013, p. 801). Hämäläinen et al conceded our main point, namely, the complete lack of justification for the use of the Lorenz equations in modeling the time evolution of human emotions; but they also asserted, incorrectly, that Fredrickson and Losada’s article contains “no clear mathematical errors” (Hämäläinen et al, 2014, p. 633). Among the purely mathematical errors clearly noted in our article are Fredrickson and Losada’s assertion that the r = 22 data (alleged to be characteristic of “medium-performance teams”) end up in a limit cycle (Brown et al, 2013, p. 808), and their implicit claims concerning the absence of chaotic attraction at large values of r (Brown et al, 2013, p. 812).…”
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