2002
DOI: 10.2307/3246206
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Implicating the demos: a reading of Thucydides on the rise of the Four Hundred

Abstract: In the midst of his account of the events, Thucydides says that it was difficult to switch Athens from democracy to the oligarchic rule of the Four Hundred (8.68.4). Most modern scholars have agreed, viewing the rise of the Four Hundred primarily as a coup effected by violence, terror and deceit. This interpretation does not conform to Thucydides' narrative (8.47-70), however, which shows that it was not very hard to end the Athenian democracy. Although terror, violence and propaganda have their place in Thucy… Show more

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“…Pol. 29.5): " […] and that all the rest of the functions of government should be entrusted to those Athenians who in person and property were most capable of serving the state, not less than five thousand" (τὴν δ᾽ ἄλλην πολιτείαν ἐπιτρέψαι πᾶσαν Ἀθηναίων τοῖς 411, see Gomme, Andrewes & Dover 1981: 165-256 (with other sources and a discussion on that date); Kagan 2012Kagan [1987: 131-86 (with bibliography); David 1996;Heftner 2001: 1-108;Taylor 2002 (who argues that there were many more people in favour of the conspirators and change than Thucydides leads us to believe); Sancho 2004;Hornblower 2008: 938-64;Shear 2011: 19-69 (with chronological tables of the events described by Thucydides and Aristotle, which underscore the contradictions between the two narratives); Tuci 2013 who analyses the manipulation of the will of the people (as well as discussing Taylor's thesis on p. 87); David 2014 (also criticising Taylor's thesis on pp. 18 and 22).…”
Section: Introductionmentioning
confidence: 99%
“…Pol. 29.5): " […] and that all the rest of the functions of government should be entrusted to those Athenians who in person and property were most capable of serving the state, not less than five thousand" (τὴν δ᾽ ἄλλην πολιτείαν ἐπιτρέψαι πᾶσαν Ἀθηναίων τοῖς 411, see Gomme, Andrewes & Dover 1981: 165-256 (with other sources and a discussion on that date); Kagan 2012Kagan [1987: 131-86 (with bibliography); David 1996;Heftner 2001: 1-108;Taylor 2002 (who argues that there were many more people in favour of the conspirators and change than Thucydides leads us to believe); Sancho 2004;Hornblower 2008: 938-64;Shear 2011: 19-69 (with chronological tables of the events described by Thucydides and Aristotle, which underscore the contradictions between the two narratives); Tuci 2013 who analyses the manipulation of the will of the people (as well as discussing Taylor's thesis on p. 87); David 2014 (also criticising Taylor's thesis on pp. 18 and 22).…”
Section: Introductionmentioning
confidence: 99%
“…Since Alcibiades had been condemned for blaspheming against the 'Mysteries' (see 6.27-29 and 6.61), they would naturally be concerned at his recall." Taylor (2002) 102.…”
Section: : Peisander In Athensmentioning
confidence: 99%
“…Taylor argues that this proves Peisander's deception as cf. Taylor (2010) 204: "Especially because of Thucydides' explicit statement that Peisander 164 spike clearly to the people, I read these words to mean that the people responded poorly at first to a proposal that they perceived to be about oligarchy." Taylor (2010) 194-5.…”
Section: ! 88mentioning
confidence: 99%
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