2011
DOI: 10.1021/ed100878j
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Atoms versus Nuclei: Response to Logic Lessons Lost

Abstract: I wish to thank Professor Clark for his recent contribution (1) rekindling Professor Jensen's three-part series (2-4). Clark's additional commentary will serve as a reminder for educators to pay close attention when defining chemical terms in the classroom. Unfortunately, confusion arose upon the introduction of the term atome. Clark specifically notes the improper use of the term atoms to describe nuclei within a polynuclear molecule and asks the reader: "What then do we call the C in CO 2 ? Jensen does not s… Show more

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“…The fact that our definition is presented in terms of the chemical bond, which seems to Prof. Giunta to represent a more intricate concept, relates to the important realization that a molecule cannot be understood without reference to chemical bonding. This is evident when reading our article and from the previous definitions provided by Jensen, Matson, and Clark. We have all disputed the importance of the chemical bond. Correspondingly, it would seem that the criticism of our new definition of molecule based on chemical bonding applies only to us, which is incorrect given the breadth of discussions of chemical bonding in the literature.…”
Section: Moleculementioning
confidence: 80%
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“…The fact that our definition is presented in terms of the chemical bond, which seems to Prof. Giunta to represent a more intricate concept, relates to the important realization that a molecule cannot be understood without reference to chemical bonding. This is evident when reading our article and from the previous definitions provided by Jensen, Matson, and Clark. We have all disputed the importance of the chemical bond. Correspondingly, it would seem that the criticism of our new definition of molecule based on chemical bonding applies only to us, which is incorrect given the breadth of discussions of chemical bonding in the literature.…”
Section: Moleculementioning
confidence: 80%
“…In addition to aiding the teaching and understanding of the ideal gas law and kinetic theory of gases as presented by Prof. Giunta, this makes it possible to conceptualize atoms as the building blocks of molecules. This is particularly interesting because it solves the issues raised by Jensen and discussed by Clark and Matson. In this regard, it is very important to emphasize that a molecule is neither formed by atoms or atomes, depending on whether they are bonded or not, nor by the very subtle and complicated nuance proposed by Matson, who declares that molecules are composed from atoms, rather than composed of atoms. Even more byzantine is Jensen’s idea, which states that molecules are not made up of atoms but of nuclei and electrons (as the paper demonstrates, this becomes nonsense for a molecule as simple as F 2 ).…”
Section: Atommentioning
confidence: 95%
“…Concerning this, Matson suggests referring to molecules in terms of what they are composed from and not as what they are composed of, making it possible to use the same word atom to refer to both free atoms and bonded atoms. 61 According to this last definition, the H 2 O molecule is formed from two atoms of the hydrogen element and one atom of the oxygen element but it is not made of two atoms of the hydrogen element and one atom of the oxygen element. The main disadvantage concerning this definition is that the difference it proposes is so subtle that it is difficult for students and teachers to recognize and use it.…”
Section: Novel Definition Of Moleculementioning
confidence: 99%
“…Besides, we do not recommend the use of this terminology, as this nomenclature is not applicable in French or Spanish. Concerning this, Matson suggests referring to molecules in terms of what they are composed from and not as what they are composed of , making it possible to use the same word atom to refer to both free atoms and bonded atoms . According to this last definition, the H 2 O molecule is formed from two atoms of the hydrogen element and one atom of the oxygen element but it is not made of two atoms of the hydrogen element and one atom of the oxygen element.…”
Section: From Elements To Chemical Species: a Novel Definition Of Mol...mentioning
confidence: 99%
“…I am pleased to reply to Michael Matson’s criticism of my “Logic Lessons Lost” commentary . William Jensen has clearly pointed out what molecular orbital chemists have known for half a century: atoms, once reacted, should no longer be called atoms.…”
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confidence: 99%