“…In response to Juan Tubert-Oklander’s elaboration of his Foulkes Lecture Beyond psychoanalysis and group analysis: The urgent need for a new paradigm of the human being (Tubert-Oklander, 2019, 2020), I am pleased to clarify that I both said and wrote that ‘the relational perspective’ is often used as an excuse for sloppy clinical work, not that it was a form of it. I ‘fully agree’ that adherence to the classical doctrine of the essentialist individual monad can also be used as an excuse for sloppy work, and in some respects is even more dangerous to the patient.…”