“…The Sayre tangent formula (Woolfson & Yao, 1990) and minimal function (Guo & Hauptman, 1990), discussed in this symposium, appear to have a larger radius of convergence than traditional tangent-formula methods, and it is expected that more structures exceeding 200 atoms will be determined in the near future. Other tangent-formula modifications such as those incorporating higher-order determinants (Karle, 1971;Tsoucaris, 1980) may eventually prove to be more powerful in ab initio macromolecular phasing applications, but, in the words of Jerome Karle (1989), 'These techniques have not achieved widespread use up to this time, presumably because there are alternative techniques that investigators have found to be preferable. ' Entropy-based phasing methods, in comparison, appear to be capable of converging to a solution for much larger structures, say 600 atoms or more (Harrison, 1989;Sj61in, Prince, Svensson & Gilliland, 1991;Sj61in & Prince, 1991;Gilmore, Henderson & Bricogne, 1991), but the success of these procedures has not always been well documented and may require sieving through a large number of trial electron-density maps in order to find one which is capable of producing a solution.…”