“…When predominant, EEX may signal a state of mind that is productive for therapeutic work, characterized by a capacity to be surprised (D. B. Stern, 1990), openness to turn unexpected ‘now moments’ into ‘moments of meeting’ (D. N. Stern et al, 1998), an inquisitive stance (Fonagy & Bateman, 2019), appropriate responsiveness (Stiles et al, 1998) and other related features. When ignored, it must be a signal of an overly saturated (Bion, 1970) mental state within the therapist, a ‘subjugating third’ (Ogden, 2004) or that SCT and OCT have captured most of the experiential field, in which case transference and countertransference expectations as defined in the classical view have become quite ‘real’.…”