Is the continous improvement of TNM staging system for bladder cancer a laudable goal or an academic exercise? In the United States, transitional cell carcinoma (TCC) of the bladder is estimated to affect approximately 67,000 people, resulting in approximately 13,700 deaths annually. 1,2 Radical cystectomy remains the treatment of choice for patients with muscle-invasive cancers and for select patients with nonmuscle-invasive disease. Despite advances in surgical technique and progress in postoperative care, 5-year disease-specific survival after cystectomy remains 50%-60%. 3,4 Precise estimation of the likelihood of treatment success is an essential component to patient counseling, the appropriate selection of one or more treatment modalities and finally for successful clinical trial design. With the availability of effective systemic therapies, accurate prediction of the presence of systemic micrometastatic disease and, the probability of progression after radical cystectomy is essential for selection of patients who may benefit most from adjunctive systemic treatment. 5 Anatomic staging systems are the simplest examples of prediction tools, giving a group of patients with similar anatomic findings (depth of invasion, lymph node status) a broad prediction of cure following surgical extirpation. The American Joint Committee on Cancer tumor, lymph nodes, metastasis staging system (AJCC-TNM) has been validated and widely used to predict the risk of disease recurrence and patient survival after cystectomy. On the basis of peer reviewed observations in the literature, and reflecting changing trends in urothelial carcinoma presentation, treatment, and outcomes, the TNM staging system has been repeatedly modified in an attempt to improve its accuracy. The latest rendition of the TNM staging system separates patients with extravesical tumor extension into pT3a (microscopic extravesical tumor extension) and pT3b (macroscopic extravesical extension) categories. 7 This distinction has remained controversial, with several recent studies demonstrating no independent predictive power offered by substratification of pT3 bladder tumors. 7,8 The question posed by Boudreaux and colleagues from Vanderbilt University and published in this issue is both clinically important and timely. In many settings, a patient who is lymph node-negative following radical cystectomy, but with extravesicle disease (pT3), will be counseled to receive or not receive adjunctive, systemic chemotherapy based upon the AJCC pT3 substaging protocol. As have others, the authors of this study found no difference in oncologic outcomes between patients with lymph node-negative pT3a and pT3b tumors and, therefore, the basis for recommending adjuvant chemotherapy or not may not be valid. However, several questions remain within this clinical situation that cloud the pT3