“…In innovative, progressive manipulative education, which also denies self-education (Matusov, 2021a), educational sociality is normatively modeled often after a community that has shared cultural and educational values, practices, traditions, routines, lifestyles, and goals. It is expected that this community, which is shaped by the progressive teacher, would regulate all educational, organizational, and relational decisions in “a community of learners” (Brown, 1997; Brown & Campione, 1994, 1998; Matusov et al, 2012). Although the community as a model is normative sociality for progressive education, so far, it has not been examined whether it fits, what I call, joint self-education.…”