2008
DOI: 10.1029/2007jd009473
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Comment on “Heat capacity, time constant, and sensitivity of Earth's climate system” by S. E. Schwartz

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“…In this section we choose to focus on uncertainties in TCR estimates rather than in ECS estimates. This is both because dependence of uncertainties in observationally-based estimates of ECS are already well-established (Knutti et al, 2008), and because the varying radiative forcing in the TCR definition is more relevant to policy decisions that have to be taken over the next few decades in which the radiative forcing is likely to still be increasing and the climate system is substantially out of equilibrium due to heat uptake by the oceans. Indeed, the analysis in section 4 shows that when TCR and ECS are considered independent the TCR is more important for climate projections out until around 2150.…”
Section: Estimating Tcr and Ecs From Observations And Simple Modelsmentioning
confidence: 99%
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“…In this section we choose to focus on uncertainties in TCR estimates rather than in ECS estimates. This is both because dependence of uncertainties in observationally-based estimates of ECS are already well-established (Knutti et al, 2008), and because the varying radiative forcing in the TCR definition is more relevant to policy decisions that have to be taken over the next few decades in which the radiative forcing is likely to still be increasing and the climate system is substantially out of equilibrium due to heat uptake by the oceans. Indeed, the analysis in section 4 shows that when TCR and ECS are considered independent the TCR is more important for climate projections out until around 2150.…”
Section: Estimating Tcr and Ecs From Observations And Simple Modelsmentioning
confidence: 99%
“…These methods, which incorporate direct observations of the climate system and do not use GCMs, are often referred to as observational estimates of TCR and ECS, which incorrectly implies they are modelindependent. It is well-established that inferences about ECS using such methods depend on the structure of the simple model used as shown by Knutti et al (2008) in response to Schwartz (2007). However, it is often assumed that estimates of TCR are more-or-less independent of the specifics of the simple climate model.…”
Section: Introductionmentioning
confidence: 99%
“…Estimates of the GMAST response time have varied from less than 1 year to several decades and, in reality, the role of the oceans means that a spectrum of response times is to be expected. Knutti et al (2008) discuss the time constants of different parts of the climate system: short time scales (1 year or less) apply to atmospheric adjustments and land surface processes; medium time scales (of order decades) to the melting of sea ice; and long time scales (many decades) to warming of the whole ocean surface layer. Ocean warming effects are complex because of mixing behaviour (Hansen et al 1985), but an effective timescale of 5-20 years has been predicted by Dickinson and Schaudt (1998).…”
Section: Solar Variability and Global Climate Response Timescalesmentioning
confidence: 99%
“…However, these approaches assume that the climate response function has a very simple shape and is well described by a single e-folding time. They are therefore believed to produce inaccurate estimates of this function (Wigley et al 2005a;Foster et al 2008;Knutti et al 2008; see also Sect. 3.4).…”
Section: Introductionmentioning
confidence: 99%