In reply t o the paper of Jefford and Waegell [I] it is shown that non-classical longrange coupling does exist in 3,3,S,5-tetrasubstituted-2-halo-cyclohexanones.Following the reasoning of those authors, an even larger abnormal coupling than originally proposed by us[2] would exist. It is illustrated however that in our original assignation of peaks to axial resp. equatorial H-4 and H-6 hydrogens, we have not used false premises. Therefore our original statements [2] are maintained.In connection with the preceding paper by C. Jefford and B. Waegell[l], we want to stress some points which seem to us to be essential in the discussion of the pmr pecularities of 2-chloro-, and 2-bromo-3,3,5,5-tetramethylcyclohexanone (ll)*. Our attribution of the pmr signals in CDCI, to the appropriate hydrogen atoms was based [2] on the observation of two long range couplings, which are believed to follow a "classical" planar zig-zag path or M-mode: 1) the 45 coupling between one of the methyl signals with the B-parts of both H-4 and H-6 AB quartets and; 2) a ''large'' 45 coupling between the A parts of both H-4 and H-6 quartets (not shown in fig. l*).
Long range coupling between Me and vicinal ring-hydrogensJefford et al. [l] criticise the fact that it is not known which of the methyl groups, axial or equatorial, is showing the observed coupling with the methylene hydrogens responsible for the up field resonances (B-parts).However it is obvious from models that only the axial-axial relationship possesses a planar zig-zag relationship, while equatorial Me-groups can not possibly have such relationships, neither with axial nor equatorial adjacent ring hydrogen nuclei.Therefore, although the axial and equatorial C-3 and C-5 methyl groups were a priori physically indistinguishable from each other, the fact that some of the methylene hydrogens (in caw both B-parts of the H-4 and H-6 quartets) show long-range couplings with certain of these methyl groups, undoubtedly discloses their true nature: nl. that they have axial positions.Furthermore, it is misleading to argue that long-range phenomena of that sort, would have been observed only in trans fused decaline systems such as in allo-steroids. We have studied many structures having geminal methyl substitution [3] and thus allowing in principle both paths to be followed: Me-axla-H-ax or Me-eqla-H. Experimentally however, only the first relationship leads to observable long-range coupling, and this in agreement with the possible planar M-arrangement [4].