“…Indeed, as Willems et al (2020) also point out, and in line with classic analyses such as (Scott, 1998), once engineeringdominated public organizations are in charge of complex projects, they are hard to dislodge, and the associated discourses on expertise, steering, and participation are hard dismantle. De Groot et al (2020) give central place to the project level of organization, with in some cases projects serving as new entities coordinating various organizations, and in other cases as more rudimentary information exchange platforms coordinating actors within the organization. The authors observe the general success of projects in terms of local adaptation but also the distance between project discourse and the mother organizations, or higher management (echoing the Luhmannian analysis of Seidl, 2016; see also Van Assche & Verschraegen, 2008).…”