“…Whether we say that everything is spiritual (Berkeley, 1710/1962), that everything is God (Spinoza, 1677/1930), or even that everything is water (Malone et al, 2003) is irrelevant. “For behaviorism, as for Berkleian idealism there is no separation between one group of facts, called the mental, and another group of facts, called physical or material” (MacKinnon, 1928, p. 356). A person made out of spiritual substance cannot step out of his or her own body, behavioral stream, or world to confirm that everything is spiritual.…”