2017
DOI: 10.1002/sim.7520
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Abstract: We are grateful to the authors who provided their insightful commentaries [1][2][3][4][5], which we hope will lead to more appropriate uses of the NRI and IDI metrics and their parent measures, the maximum relative utility, and discrimination slope. Here, we highlight common themes, clarify certain issue, and point out where we differ with some of the authors.Together with the papers they reference [6][7][8], several of the authors re-iterate the importance of model calibration when using the NRI and IDI metri… Show more

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“…In this communication, we present four different metrics, Harrell’s C, pseudo R 2 , IDI and NRI, through which to analyze the effect of cg05575921, cg04987734, and LEA on survival prediction. To be clear, each of those metrics have strengths and weaknesses that are well noted in the literature [28,32,33,34]. Still, in each of those analyses, although the amount of additional information was rather small, LEA did seem to predict a small proportion of survival independent of the effects of cg05575921 and cg04987734.…”
Section: Discussionmentioning
confidence: 96%
“…In this communication, we present four different metrics, Harrell’s C, pseudo R 2 , IDI and NRI, through which to analyze the effect of cg05575921, cg04987734, and LEA on survival prediction. To be clear, each of those metrics have strengths and weaknesses that are well noted in the literature [28,32,33,34]. Still, in each of those analyses, although the amount of additional information was rather small, LEA did seem to predict a small proportion of survival independent of the effects of cg05575921 and cg04987734.…”
Section: Discussionmentioning
confidence: 96%
“…So why not just use net benefit? Pencina et al state that in order to use net benefit, there need to be “well‐established thresholds,” and in their “vast and varied experience,” this is “rare.” If the authors are implying that there is often no single threshold, this is true, but irrelevant because net benefit is traditionally estimated across a range of thresholds. If the authors are implying that it is the suitable range of thresholds that is unknown, this is obviously false.…”
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confidence: 99%
“…We argue that presenting standardized net benefit curves with maximum standardized net benefit as a companion single‐number summary offers a more elegant and interpretable pairing than standardized net benefit and the AUC. Moreover, Baker shows that the inverse of the NRI at event rate times the event rate can be interpreted as the summary test trade‐off, ie, an approximate lower bound over all thresholds for the minimum number of tests for a new marker that needs to be traded for a true positive to yield a positive net benefit …”
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confidence: 99%