In this issue of the Journal, our regular 'Clinical and Theoretical Practice' strand brings together papers that revisit the foundational work of Winnicott and Segal, providing an opportunity to deepen our thinking around key texts in the field, and perhaps too to consider our individual practice afresh. First, Stewart Gabel argues that Winnicott's 'intermediate area of experiencing, when applied to religious practices, is often appropriately understood as a normal dissociative phenomenon of variable intensity', that is, an alternative level of consciousness 'in which the threshold for usual ego functions…is lowered and universal themes such as the meaning or purpose in life….are elevated'. In a most thoughtful discussion, Gabel discusses a native ritual, a modern religious practice and a clinical vignette to illustrate 'what can be described within a Winnicottian notion of the intermediate area of experience'.Next, Patrick Casement, in a wide-ranging inaugural lecture prepared for the inaugural conference of the Japanese Winnicott Association in 2019, draws a distinction between 'using'or applying -Winnicott's ideas, and 'finding' Winnicott in our clinical work, suggesting that it is 'at those times of finding Winnicott that his ideas most vividly come alive to us'. Acknowledging that Winnicott can at times seem to be 'quite obscure', Casement suggests that even then, 'when we encounter something in clinical practice that touches upon what he is talking about, there is a sense of recognition', a process that he illustrates with examples from Winnicott's practice and from his own.Then, R.D. Hinshelwood offers a searching paper that extends his recent discussion of Segal's theory of symbol-formation in the BJP (Hinshelwood, 2018). He seeks to 'strengthen Segal's claim that there is an important correspondence between the normal definition of a symbol and the way it is used by psychoanalysts trying to understand abnormal functioning', and to identify the 'specific ego-function that was necessary for the human species to develop symbolic representations, the accumulation of knowledge and civilized life'. Recognizing that the idea needs further investigation, Hinshelwood introduces an 'as-if' function that is needed 'in order to use symbols and representation'.Turning now to questions of supervision. Anne Engholm Hedegaard contributes to the debate on rupture and repair in therapeutic work with an experience-near research paper putting forward the idea that 'in group supervision, the supervisory alliance cannot be separated from the group processes in which it is embedded'. Her mixed-method study was undertaken at an outpatient university clinic in Denmark, and showed that group dynamics can affect the supervisory alliance negatively; at the same time, the group can contribute to the repair of the supervisory alliance. Then, Hanoch Yerushalmi explores the internal processes involved, for the supervisor, in formulating a construction of the patient's world, psychic life and pathology. He recommends, making use of Ogde...