“…Since Garvie et al analyzed samples with "crosscutting Mn-stringers" and "Mn oxides filling cracks", Krinsley et al (1990) and Krinsley (1998: Figure 4) established previously that these stringers form in conduits for water flow and reprecipitation of Mn-Fe oxides -thus disequilibrium through greater intravarnish water flow would be expected. Scenario 3: if Garvie et al (2008) collected varnish that originated in a rock joint, exposed by spalling (Coudé-Gaussen et al, 1984;Villa et al, 1995;Dorn, 1998;Cerveny et al, 2006), then disequilibrium through an adjustment to the subaerial environment would be expected. Liu and colleagues are explicit in that they do not interpret paleoenvironmental changes from varnishes in these contexts Zhou et al, 2000;Liu, 2003;Broecker, 2007, 2008a,b;Liu, 2010).…”