Absolute cross section measurements for electron-impact single ionization of (q = 4 - 8) ions and for double ionization of and are reported. The animated crossed-beams method has been applied. The measurements cover the energy range from threshold to several keV. The and ion beams are found to contain an important population of ions formed in metastable states. For single ionization, results are in overall good agreement with direct ionization theoretical predictions, when available. Excitation - autoionization is observed in the ionization threshold region for and in the K - L transition energy region for and . Double ionization of and is found to be dominated by K-shell ionization followed by autoionization.