Marine mammals are an important part of ecosystems, and their trophic role and potential impact have been increasingly studied. One key question is how these large animals interact with fisheries or compete for similar resources. Consequently, some models once used only for fisheries management are now including pinnipeds and cetaceans. However, fish and marine mammals do not share the same ecology and bioenergetics, and complex ecosystem models may not be the best way to assess the impact of pinnipeds or cetaceans in food webs. Indeed, simpler methods based on thermodynamics might give us reasonable answers with limited amounts of data. Here, we present an assessment of two different approaches to assess the trophic role of marine mammals in the northern Gulf of St. Lawrence (Canada): mixed trophic impacts (MTI) based on ecosystem modeling and surface index (SI) impact based on bioenergetics. Our results show that while modeling represents a good way of getting a holistic view of the role of marine mammals in ecosystems, trophic impact estimates based on fundamental thermodynamics principles can also give us answers requiring less data. The body surface area approach presented here might provide a practical tool for ecologists, who are not necessarily ecosystem modelers, to study this issue.In recent years, there has been an increasing number of attempts to adapt ecosystem models to fisheries management. So far, the majority of fish and marine mammal species have been assessed on the basis of biomass (Brodie 1984), an approach used for the great majority of ecosystem models (Plag anyi 2007). While this modeling method may be adequate for fish, it may not be the best way to evaluate the impact of other components of the ecosystem, such as marine mammals. Indeed, fish are poikilothermic, while seals and cetaceans maintain mammalian body temperatures against the thermal gradient of their environment. Therefore, using the same assumptions for all trophic groups in ecosystem models is not appropriate. Most attempts at ecosystem modeling for management have been developed for fisheries management purposes, thus most of the equations structuring the models are based on fisheries sciences rather than representing the ecology of marine mammals.