I wish to start by extending my thanks to Ali Rattansi for engaging with, and responding to, my article 'The War Against Forgetfulness: Sociological Lessons from Bauman's Writings on European Jewry' (Dawson, 2020) and to Peter Beilharz as Editor of Thesis Eleven for providing space for our debate.I must confess, though, that I was somewhat confused upon reading Rattansi's response. The reason for this is that Rattansi seems to imagine my article is intended to be an extended critique of his book Bauman and Contemporary Sociology: A Critical Analysis (Rattansi, 2017). Therefore, he rebukes me for not discussing his critiques around Bauman's maleness and ignorance of gender (which, it should be noted, are critiques offered more broadly in scholarship on Bauman; see for example Branaman. 2007), his discussion of consumerism, or the English riots of 2011. But my article was never intended to be an extended critique of Rattansi's book. Rather it was an attempt to respond to a set of literature which, in claiming Bauman as 'white', suggests that this 'whiteness' imbibes his sociological project and automatically creates a 'Eurocentric' worldview. Of course, in my doing so, I refer to Rattansi's work most frequently since his book contains the most prominent example of these arguments. However, it is not his argument alone, and in my article I cite other instances of this. If I were to write an extended response to all of Rattansi's claims, and therefore in effect provide that extended critique of Rattansi's book, this would take us beyond the scope of my original article and would be challenging in the space available to me here. Therefore, in what follows, rather than respond to these broader points of Rattansi's argument, I will pick up